Listening to the Senate Foreign Relations Committee today, and I feel like I've fallen OUT of bizarro world and back into real life.
There were experts, generals, the usual gang. What was different this time was the tone. To wit: it was agreeable and reasonable.
Everybody agreed that Gen. Patraeus has done a lot with a little
Everybody agreed that it hasn't been enough and that the surge has pretty much fizzled
No one questioned anyone else's patriotism
The general dude lamented Congress' lack of meaningful oversight over the years, attributing it to faux patriotism and bullying
Each expert said "this administration won't change things in Iraq, and things have to change"
Each expert was clear that they were not "recommending" troop withdrawal, they were saying it is inevitable
None of the Republicans on the committee tried to bluster or to obfuscate or to question the motives of anyone
None of the Democrats tried to rationalize their capitulating behavior
Everyone agreed that the course has to change, that "this thing is over" and that there's no more "just give it a try!" scenarios to play out
We may be past the point where anything can be done about anything, but I haven't heard this kind of frank, direct, complete talk from this situation...ever.
Which got me to thinking about George Bush's lame duck status. The administration has been able to do what it has been able to do because of bullying, intimidation and other strong arm tactics. When you've still got years in office, few people have the cajones to stand up to you under those circumstances.
But as your time in power whittles down to months, a few of the braver souls with the deeper seniority might start coming forward...as this lot did today...to not just respectfully disagree with your ideas, but to suggest that you are, in fact, a drooling idiot.
And I think the politicians are catching on. There's no money left in supporting this war, and they know it. And there's no election strategy around "give me another six months and I swear I can fix this thing!" And they know it.
Patreaus testifies next week. This ought to be good.
There were experts, generals, the usual gang. What was different this time was the tone. To wit: it was agreeable and reasonable.
Everybody agreed that Gen. Patraeus has done a lot with a little
Everybody agreed that it hasn't been enough and that the surge has pretty much fizzled
No one questioned anyone else's patriotism
The general dude lamented Congress' lack of meaningful oversight over the years, attributing it to faux patriotism and bullying
Each expert said "this administration won't change things in Iraq, and things have to change"
Each expert was clear that they were not "recommending" troop withdrawal, they were saying it is inevitable
None of the Republicans on the committee tried to bluster or to obfuscate or to question the motives of anyone
None of the Democrats tried to rationalize their capitulating behavior
Everyone agreed that the course has to change, that "this thing is over" and that there's no more "just give it a try!" scenarios to play out
We may be past the point where anything can be done about anything, but I haven't heard this kind of frank, direct, complete talk from this situation...ever.
Which got me to thinking about George Bush's lame duck status. The administration has been able to do what it has been able to do because of bullying, intimidation and other strong arm tactics. When you've still got years in office, few people have the cajones to stand up to you under those circumstances.
But as your time in power whittles down to months, a few of the braver souls with the deeper seniority might start coming forward...as this lot did today...to not just respectfully disagree with your ideas, but to suggest that you are, in fact, a drooling idiot.
And I think the politicians are catching on. There's no money left in supporting this war, and they know it. And there's no election strategy around "give me another six months and I swear I can fix this thing!" And they know it.
Patreaus testifies next week. This ought to be good.
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Re: Iraq Hearings: A Turning Point?
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 5:16 PMThanks for the summation. I'll buy the popcorn... -
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Re: Iraq Hearings: A Turning Point?
Wed, April 2, 2008 - 5:42 PMWell, I've just had a bit of hope around this.
It is tradition to throw our departing presidents a little bit under the bus anyway, whether they deserve it or not. It's always easy to blame things on the last guy.
In this case, BushCo clearly deserves it. They're highly unpopular. They're clearly to blame. They're obstinate. They're willful lawbreakers. And, worst of all, they failed to do what they set out to do.
Whoever inherits this mess would have been inclined to blame it all on Bush even if he did everything mostly right and just got unlucky. The fact that he's a fascist pig and that even conservatives are saying so means that he will not be spared. The only thing keeping this from happening right now is that we still have (god help us) eight more months, which can be a lifetime in Washington.
But when it's down to four months and the general election is in full steam and the mandatory troop withdrawals are either happening or being grotesquely stop-lossed, the dam will break. There are too many careers to save.
Reminds me of the reign of Caligula. One biography I read of him suggested that the more outlandish escapades he was accused of were probably made up after his death by senators and other patricians who didn't want to be called out for all the partying they did with Little Boots.
"Didn't you and your wife help him run the brothel in the palace?"
"What? Hunh? Me? Oh! Right! Well, he FORCED us to do it! Yeah! He said he would kill our children! Um, and he was eating ROAST BABY at the dinner where he asked us! We barely escaped death!"
That's what's coming for Bushie. Probably only half the stories of his bullying and irrational tirades will be true, but they'll all be fun!
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Re: Iraq Hearings: A Turning Point?
Thu, April 3, 2008 - 12:26 PMListening to some more today. This is getting good. The Republicans have their face-saving narrative: the Iraqis have failed.
I know, it's infuriating, but we do have to let them have this one. History will iron that wrinkle flat later on, but for right now this article of faith is the only thing giving the Obstructicons the cover they need to get right with Jesus on this thing.
"We, being good people, gave the president and his team every benefit of the doubt, every opportunity to achieve success and the incompetent Iraqi government has failed our troops. It is now clear that we can't continue putting people in harm's way in the hopes that these slack jawed yokels will get their shit together anytime soon. So it is now clear that we must impose benchmarks and timelines. Anything else would be unpatriotic, wimpy, 'nation-building,' UN-loving, leftie, kumbaya Democrat bullshit!"
Oddly, it's just flowing over me now. I am a leaf on the wind. 10:1 says that the first withdrawal bill to pass will be called something like "The Iraq Accountability and Mission Effectiveness Act" or something like that.
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Re: Iraq Hearings: A Turning Point?
Tue, April 15, 2008 - 12:13 AMThey aired a great clip today on Root of All Evil with Lewis Black, showing Cheney in 1994 talking about why invading Iraq was a bad thing, and would lead to a quagmire. Awesome stuff.
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